hey there. Good to meet you both, and I wish you good journeys. Not enough organization for me with this group. Take care!

There is also a bit more on UESP - These guys, and the Kothringi are a good source of content we can use that is 'official' but vague, giving us a wide spae to work with.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Races

thought this might come in handy http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lilmothiit

You shouldve posted this under quests and lore but i like it perhaps for some reason a shadowscale quest requires the player to go back to skyrim and arrives to an open seas with the imperial shipping company ships surrounding him and he has to kill them all in the process earning the player a nicer boat.

Hey guys I just released an update on Black Marsh basically finished the newly opened areas from last update.

Then you should read the infernal city. cuz it opens up who the argonians are in essence so well. You will definately understand My view of Black Marsh alot better then.

mmm, nice, I like it. Btw, I've been reviewing my lore, somewhat haphazerdly, if there is a particular spot, or page that I jneed to see, or that really excites/inspires you, le t me know, so I can make sure I am up on and in line with it.

Perhaps even we could create a faction for non argonian ranks in the An Xileel perhaps a suicide type mission quest line eventually leading up to his glory in Black Marsh.

I know we should also consider the Synod and Whispers role in Black Marsh. Basically all i know is that there is at least one representive from one of the factions in every major city. Except Lilmoth as it has both. Lilmoth I suspect will play the largest role in Black Marsh and I know Im excited to begin workin on it although it may not be for a couple weeks.

Great ideas. Really awesome ideas. Ok I feel like the dragons would have already reached Black Marsh before the player at least partially also I remember something about an ancient dragon still living in Morrowind i beleive perhaps i should look into that. since argonians "control" morrowind. Also I like this companion Jeezara thing to I feel like thats a great way to introduce the Anxileel,hist,organism,and Black marsh to the player.

Cool, I am a big fan of the Psijic's as well, excellent content potential. I can already see ideas where I wish I was an animator :)

with the natives, Appease the Shadowscales, the An-Xieel, and the king of Black Marsh before being permitted in the presence of the Hist. (Ilike the idea of a side quest to gain the ability to speak to it) I'm thinking that an underlying reason for the trip is to return with special/rare hist sap that Jeezara needs. May just use the aquisition of information as a base, and the sap as a way to heal Jeezara after his injury, and earn him as a follower. But perhaps the initial reason is essentially tha same as the dragonborn's motivation - dragons have returned, and Black Marsh must be warned (or perhaps just informed, as they may be awaiting the return of the dragons) One Argonian-only quest I want to try is after a series of missions for the Shadowscales of Black Marsh the player earns the right to be partially indoctrinated. By pleadging to serve the Shadow the player takes part in a ritual to bring Shadow's attention onto them, please her, and gain the Shadowscale ability.

I like it. I dont want all of Black Marsh to be just for argonians like you said we simply need the same triggers to send non argonians on different quests. Keep up the good work also we could start thinkn about a Psijic influence as I want the Climax of my mods to end in Arteum so keep them in mind

I was thinking about that last night. I'm thinking whether a player is Shadowscale or not, we can use Jeezera as a catalyst. If we decide to limit the quest to Argonians, it will likely actually make the quest easier to script, but I would like to try to make at least the initial 'go to Black Marsh' motivation to be universal, with branching once there, and of course plenty of Argonian-only tweaks like speech lines, reactions, quest details, etc.

For an outline of the quest, I was thinking along these lines - player is given the quest objective to speak to Aventis Arantino, the child calling the black sacrament, we edit the quest to end with Jeezara instead of Astrid (so we can make new voice, and allow for branching based on Argonian and Shadowscale. All of this is so that during the Dark Brotherhood questline we can add a new quest trigger where Jeezara asks the player to travel to Black Marsh. Why can vary based on race, But once in the Marsh, the player needs to interact

I'm thinking we should add some quests. I havent put any real thought into any in particular. But I have started flesh out the shadowscale tunnels perhaps we could have the player journey there for one reason or another. Perhaps they may have to deal with some of your shadow scales.