someone can remove my ban on The Vocal Minority?

Than just lock it, invite-only or such.

Might come in handy one day, and serve a purpose you can't foresee.
Maybe best leave it after all. As a cautionary tale.
Unless you are addicted to purging or prefer to pretend this never happened... Which it did.

I think you can ask a steam mod.
I donno, our group got closed when we went rampant with announcements.

Don't think so, I found this though: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3295431

Anyone know if it is possible to ask Steam to do it for us?

Ow. I think I'm all purged out for a while.

Don't forget guys, join this group: http://v1.steam.hlxgame.cc/groups/vocalminority before we do the purge all over again in this group....

It wasn't anything against you, just a major snafu. I can send an invite.

I hadn't even posted or talked in the vocal minority group for months.
But my ban was issued a few days ago.
I don't get it.

Ah, damn, sorry to hear. Let me try something. I can try inviting you.

(Agree with the rest, to say the least.)

Yeah hi umm, I'm still banned from the main group. Without reason of course. I joined TVM in support for a cause, a cause to make blind developers realize how bad they've alienated their oldest and best players, in favor of skin-toting newbies.

It would be very appreciated if myself and any anyone else still banned who did nothing wrong got back in. Hopefully it won't be nuked again without considering what happens to the people who aren't the problem.

@biodtox - Well, yes, axactly. What's worse he basically accused the group of being racist, 'transphobic' etc., without showing proof or examples. No quotes, no links, no screenshots, not even a word he might type himself between quotation marks.

MASF Reload - Maybe try now? Group has been reset to 'public' so maybe it works now?

Rather than nuking the whole group he should have taken time to kick people who actually deserve that. Nuking the group weakens our case.

@Mother_Flowers, just watched it and liked it so yeah i was being nice about it, and no you just done a good idea for the group and i'm thinking of using that idea for another thing, so don't worry you did nothing wrong.

@lightofshadows - Thanks, I guess? I don't think I even know you so I apologise if I've done anything to you

Nice trailer flower, and thats not a bad idea to do, makes it interesting.

Nvm i said i'm done talking to you, go annoy someone else now

Because I'm bored: http://v1.steam.hlxgame.cc/groups/lessvocalminority/discussions/0/458606248621199599/

lightofshadows: "and yeah we disagree"

That's still after I posted the same thing! Look at the comments? The chronological order?
NVM: "Well, I guess we're at that point where we agree that we happen to disagree."

I didn't quote 'wrong' I quoted you exactly.
You're still arguing?... To be honest, I'm here because the other group was bombed to hell, and 900 people were kicked off accusing the group of "racism, transphobia, flaming and lying!"
I was not kicked, and I'm not here for myself. Get it now?

I still haven't called you a name, and you did it again, by the way. Twice, now. Noticed that?

Im only in this because i care about this game's community and not its updates.
I hope that's okay with the Moderators.

To be honest, why the hell are you even here? Your here to tell tuffcooke off?

I'm done with this pointless "chat"

NVM: "Well, I guess we're at that point where we agree that we happen to disagree."
lightofshadows: "i am allowed to not agree wiht you or is that not right with you?
Wrong spot that part i said by this:

lightofshadows: "and yeah we disagree"

NVM: "Or is it that you believe the group and its members were all a bunch or 'racist, transphobic flamers and liars'?"
OK missed the question mark, my bad.

and no you were being a jackass

"Sure, let;'s give poor Tuff a break and carte blanche. Anyone else?

Let's just lobotomise ourselves collectively and forget any of this happened, or any of us, or our opinions, ever existed. Let's just take it and chant along quietly like docile, unthinking, voiceless chattel."

pay out what i said, making it sound like one of those people who think the world needs to accept stuff taht peopel shouldn't

"Anything else we can do to keep this as comfortable for Tuff? Should I fluff his pillow? Peel his grapes?"
more sarcasim to be nasty about what i said.

lightofshadows: "Yes by saying i think the group is rasict etc."
NVM: "Or is it that you believe the group and its members were all a bunch or 'racist, transphobic flamers and liars'?"

Did you miss the question mark? And the question-like syntax as well: "is it?"
I asked , not stated. I asked you how and what you thought, I didn't state as fact and did not even claim as my opinion.

You don't read minds, fine, but read what you're replying to, don't just call me a jackass without me ever having called you anything. I still haven't, In case you missed that too.

NVM: "Well, I guess we're at that point where we agree that we happen to disagree."
lightofshadows: "i am allowed to not agree wiht you or is that not right with you?

Did you miss that too? It's pretty clear. So who are you arguing against?
1) - We. 2) - Disagree. 3) - Agreed on that?

Well i don't know i said maybe i don't read peopels mind

Yes by saying i think the group is rasict etc. and "lets give poor tuff a break" being sarcastic and trying to make me look like a white knight

No i'm not superior and i say speak your mind and yes your opinions are fine, i am allowed to not agree wiht you or is that not right with you?

And i didn't say my thoughts count more, just counts as one of the many, and yeah we disagree don't need to make it sound like "get over it and accept it already!"

"Maybe regrets it" "Maybe." Sounds good.

Did I insult you, LIght? Yes? No? I'm not aware of it. So why are you calling me a jackass?
Am I just being "a jackass to you"?

Your thoughts count here? Do mine as well, or are yours superior and I should shut up?
You claim your opinion? Well, I claim mine. Is that okay with you, or am I being a jackass and calling you one ? Who just called whom a jackass, and who is one?

Do your thoughts just 'count more'? You think your way and I think think my way.
I disagree. Well, I guess we're at that point where we agree that we happen to disagree.
That's all. That is really all there is to it. Accept it.

Its not that i think peopel are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that needed a kick i just saw it as a mistake what he said was maybe, MAYBE a screw up in reading peoples comments, calm down.

so don't be a jackass to me, my thoughts count here, and i say he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and he knows it and maybe regrets it and wnats to let someone else try, he feels bad for it too you know.

♥♥♥♥♥♥ up? So which is it then? 900 members kicked one after another, before Tuff realised 'Oops! Where'd they all go?' Or just a mass grave, toss 900 random members in and implicitly call them racist, transphobic flamers and liars?

How does that work for you? 'Oh well'? Or is it that you believe the group and its members were all a bunch or 'racist, transphobic flamers and liars'?

Sure, let;'s give poor Tuff a break and carte blanche. Anyone else?

Let's just lobotomise ourselves collectively and forget any of this happened, or any of us, or our opinions, ever existed. Let's just take it and chant along quietly like docile, unthinking, voiceless chattel.

Anything else we can do to keep this as comfortable for Tuff? Should I fluff his pillow? Peel his grapes?
After all, as a mod (who shall of course remain nameless and completely fictional) is so often all too eager to point out:
'We all make mistakes.' or 'Oops! I did it again!' Well, tee-hee...

wow guys, people get kicked from groups all the time, i got kicked, and i didn't say stupid ♥♥♥♥, but the way i see it, it was a mistake and a bad idea, that can't be fixed now.

1/13 was an inside job. In all seriousness though this Tuffcooke seems to be really immature and can't reasonably think about his actions. If he's not gonna be demoted within several days I'm going to leave this group and I'm going to encourage all my friends to do the same.

Why is Tuffcooke an admin in this group again? Doesn't really feel safe. He kicked 900+ people without further notice from the old group, including me. So basically you're calling me a racist, transphobic and a liar, that's not really respectful because I'm none of those, neither are a very large amount of those other 900 people. Seems he just started randomly kicking people from the group for no clear reason. Could you demote him though? Or he's gonna do it again in a few weeks with this group I'm pretty sure.

Can we knock it off, i swear in my point of view he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and made a mistake, come on now we are treating tuff like overkill or something here, people make mistakes, no one is perfect.

So that group had near half of its members kicked by one individual.
And this group has so far a whopping 88 members.
from Tuftcock's "Purge" update on the Vocal Minority Group:
"The following things from within this group were shown to me:
Racism
Transphobia
Instigation of Payday 2 forum mod flame war
Lies about Payday 2 forum mods."

#1 - Question: shown by whom?

#2 - Summary: according to the reasons given by Tuftcoke originally --before the 'ugh, I is klutzy hee-hee, Sowwy!'-- that means those people, about 900, were implicitly or directly accused or judged by Tuffcooke to be RACIST, TRANSPHOBIC FLAMERS and LIARS!

And I just checked to make sure: one of my closest friends is among them, who is one of the sweetest, most open-minded, honest and honourable, intelligent, sensitive, kind and caring people... And I know that being sensitve, this implicit accusation WILL affect them!

Tuffcooke. You miserable... Ah, what's the point! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

I am not forgetting this. Not letting this be swept under the rug casually with an 'oops!' and be forgotten.

The nuking of a community is one thing. Those accusations, implicit or otherwise, are another.

I suggest you act according to the best conscience you can muster.
And whatever sense of honour you have left.

Now I will go scour my own list with a fine-toothed comb and maybe do my own overdue purging in order to protect the closest and cleanest.
Let the witch hunt begin, since it was initiated already - thanks, Tuffcooke!

it should be noted that http://v1.steam.hlxgame.cc/groups/vocalminority# was at a count of over 2000members with an active forum prior to Tuff's Overkillgate, for any reference to our support as a whole against developer abuse of customer trust

This should be a good start to the 2.0 at least.

I'm so non-vocal that I have stopped even paying attention to all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ they are doing!