Check this out: http://v1.steam.hlxgame.cc/groups/33rdregimentbg2/discussions/0/617336568068657623/

12th really doesn't want to play the game...

Last evening some official and unofficial members of the group tried to make a deal with 12th, that will not only help them but also SAVE THE COMMUNITY, which is currently full of elitism and abusive administrators...

I negotiated with a former member of the 12th, Fishy, and we built up this agreement:

12th:
•Everyone that has been banned for unnecissary reasons/ The Group would be unbanned. (Uninclding Myself)
•Fishy Will become the Prime Democrat of the clan officially in the officers side, he shouldn't wear any tags different than his own, but his word about democratic issues such as perma banning players (or ban more than 10 days) or adding unreasonable rules.
•Every PERMA ban (or any ban more than 10 days) must be disscussed with FISHY and treated with reason.
•12th Will stop banning people for unnecissary reasons and will teach its clanmates to treat pubbers rather more gently, if they turn out to be complete trolls, they may be unbanned to up to 10 days unless there is something critical as Hacking/Cheating.

12th Haters
•The group will be permanently deleted and never shall be created again.
•If anyone "trolls" on 12th server or does any unnecisairy trashtalking, any members of the group or unnofficial anonymous members will step up and help the administrations.
•If any one of the official or unofficial members bothers the 12th, they must talk to me,S ,before any drastic acts are being taken. i will try to talk reason into the person and if that doesn't work an over 10 day ban would be permitted.

-The group will be on "Hidden" mode and will ever stay there if the terms above apply to both sides.
-If one of the sides above breaks the terms the other side is permitted to stop doing its own. (unhiding the group/ rebanning everyone.)

after we disscussed it long and hard we came to an agreement. if you read the above you can pretty much see its all nice and fair for both sides.
But... after Fishy was going to show it to their leader, DevilMayCry, he declined it and said "no, were not doing deals with trollers, its our server and the trolls may not have any word in it"

Completly ignoring deplomacy and the needs of the community to escpae from its toxic side and stop this madness, he simply calls people who can think "Trollers" with full disrespect and puts his intentions infront...

And well, doesn't matter how much of the 12th agreed to these terms that would siriusly help the community, they wouldn't agree with it. why? because its "his" server and he is a "captain", then he worths more than all his clan and the entire community...