Good try everyone. Mabye if I my trip didn't collide with it, everything would have worked. Oh well.

I think we should since we haven't been doing anything for the highlander tournament

Should we disband this group now?

I want to thank everyone who showed up on Sunday but at the same time its become apparently clear this just isn't going to work. I will give the server to you guys to use if you want and I'm happy to still join in fun Highlanders or whatever if you can get enough but I've officially withdrawn myself from the competition and thus from this group.

The games we actually did play was fun and thanks again for those. See you around...

I gotta learn to come to these things two hours earlier. Damn time zones.

Thanks Tails... If anyone can't make it, let me know here.

If all goes well, I'll be there no problem.

Okay guys. I am going to leave you people a lot of notice for the next pug seeing as this one fell apart due to hardly anyone knowing about it until the last minute. People clearly dont check this place, which isnt ideal but understandable...

This is what I'm planning but it is open to debate/discussion, but I will look to fit the needs as many people as possible.

When: Sunday 19th, 8pm show up time, planned to start at 8.30 or earlier if we are ready. I will start at 8.30 (or half an hour after the start time) even if we are short and only have say 12 people.
Where: Muppets 2 (but of course)
What: Highlander pug. Dogs with whoever can assist us. Ideally Anthrax can supply us with Mercs and I will speak with him about this.
Maps: I'm thinking Freight, Badwater and Gravelpit. They are all in the tournament and Gravel Pit was quite the problem for numerous reasons.

Any thoughts/objections? I'll have Maroon post this as an event...

The etf2l site, the people organising the comp, is silly.
There are just under 1000 teams in the competition, wich isn't bad, it's just that they planned on 340 teams. So they are havin trouble of organisin everythin. They are working with valve right now to make it easy for everyone.
They do not have a time or date of when they are planning to release the info, so it could be a while... after I get back from snowboardin even...

pfft, excuses.

well that's something you don't hear every day. still, hope your leg heals up good and your comp fixed.

Holy ♥♥♥♥, sorry to hear that.

everyone i have bad news. my computer exploded and i have a huge gash across my leg + i cant play tf2 anymore (im on sis' laptop) i can go to internet cafes but i gotta need the times and ♥♥♥♥. it wont be fixed till i make a new one or next weekish

Well done everyone who participated in the practice scrim today. Now we know we need to improve a bit at Gravelpit, and thanks to the AusHL for being good sports. Also, nice comeback on that last match guys.

We have a prac. scrim on saturday 10pm on Muppets 2

We have 2 practise scrims coming up this week. A match with "Australian Highlander (AusHL)" on Friday night. And another with "Halolz rejects" Saturday at midday (their Friday night). More info such as time and where as they develop.

Both times we will be usin our first choice people from the pack. As such, you need to tell me if you cannot make the time, so we can have our second choice people prepare.

Scout: Witted, Aerial
Solly: Prime, Tails
Pyro: Mailor, Aerial
Demo: Cunchy, Banana
Heavy: Sadass, Lunar
Engie: Peach, Lunar
Medic: James, Tails
Sniper: Maroon, Banana
Spy: Yogo, Krause

Odds are that this is the final setout for the team. If you are second choice in something don't worry, I have given you 2 places in second choice. Just remember however that we may call any of you up to play anything if something unusual happens (eg. both Scout and Pyro 1st choice cannot play).

Ah forgot about Mailor and Aerial for Pyro... should have tried to made two teams really... it could have easily been done.

Thanks Tails though I think we haven't quite settled on Soldier/Pyro both of which you are very solid at I understand. I think its quite unlikely all 9 of us are going to be able to show up at a given time. The rest from what I've heard (though there may be misinformation floating about) looks fairly set. In my mind I like this line up though its hardly final.

Scout: Witted
Soldier: Dunno but I like Prime or Tails here I think...
Pyro: Again Dunno but Tails is okay by me
Demo: Cunchy
Heavy: Sadass
Engineer: Myself
Medic: James
Sniper: Maroon
Spy: Yogo (Krause offered to be reserve I believed but I may be mistaken)

I'm also unsure of Lunar's status regarding Engineer. Some said they wanted to be a reserve others said they didn't. We can also rotate players around if they play other classes well too and find a good/available combination though I'm already working on Engineer rollouts lol.

I vouch Peach should be the engie, just make me the reserve.

Remaining dates:

* FINAL DEVISIONS ANNOUNCED: Sunday 29th of August (today, but we are ahead of Europe of this afternoon / tomorrow morning)
* SCHEDULE DEADLINE FOR WEEK 1 MATCHES: Sunday the 5th of September
* WEEK 1 START: Sunday the 12th of September

Sent an email and challange to a group called "Halolz rejects" cause they are a step above us on the ladder. I want this to happen cause they are about the same distance from us as Europe is and it will give us an idea of the lag and how to compensate for it. At the very least it will give us a practise match with people other than those we always play with.

Log onto the email to see what I sent them (I saved it as a draft).

The team's email is:
downud@hotmail.co.uk

The password is
Underd0gs
(the 0 is a zero)

951, holy christ

There are 951 teams in the competition.

First choice dogs with LITTLE knowledge of how they fare up against eachother, this could end up completely changed by Sunday.

Scout - Witted
Solly - Cunchy/Prime
Pyro - Mailor/Aerial
Demo - Prime/Cunchy
Heavy - Sadass
Engie - Tails/Peach
Spy - Krause/Yogo
Sniper - Maroon
Medic - James

As you can see, half of the classes are unditermined. Either cause I couldn't decided where I put them like with the Demo and Solly, others I cannot tell who is better like with the pyro. Again, this is what the PUG is for.

This leaves the following as reserves (in no paticular order)
*Mailor/Aerial (depending, im thinking of making Mailor the reserve cause he playes 5 different classes while Aerial plays 2)
*Tails/Peach (depending, im thinking of making Peach the reserve cause he offered to play any class)
*Krause/Yogo (depending)
*Banana
*Lunar

*WHAT THE DOGS PLAY*
Krause - Spy
Maroon - Sniper, Pyro, Heavy
Aerial - Pyro, Scout
Banana - Anything (sniper)
Cunchy - Demo, Solly
Tails - Engie, Medic, Solly
James - Medic, Engie, Heavy, Pyro, Sniper
Lunar - Engie, Pyro, Spy
Mailor - Medic, Pyro, Scout, Demo, Spy
Peach - Anything (engie)
Prime - Demo, Sniper, Solly
Sadass - Heavy, Engie, Medic
Witted - Scout, Solly
Yogo - Spy, Demo, Engie

*WHAT CLASSES ARE PLAYED BY*
Scout - Aerial, Mailor, Witted
Solly - Willed, Prime, Cunchy, Mailor, Tails
Pyro - Maroon, Aerial, Tails, Mailor, James
Demo - Prime, Cunchy, Yogo
Heavy - Sadass, James, Maroon
Engie - Sadass, James, Yogo, Tails, Lunar
Spy - Krause, Mailor, Yogo
Sniper - Prime, James, Banana, Maroon
Medic - James, Tails, Sadass

I convinced Krause to make me an admin, so thing's will hopefully go a lot smoother.

i am so sorry about all of this was not allowed on computer and my internet wouldn't work so i couldn't do this from ps3 or something else. i am happy that lunar helped with all of this. let's all try our best and hope that other country's servers aren't very laggy

I'd like to add that Krause is a dirty hobo.
That is all.

Let Sadass carry team. Success is certain.

WE SHOULD PUG RIGHT NOW

Well its amazing what you miss when you spend 4 days playing HL. Great to see we have a team. guess I better start playing more TF2.

just let witted carry, that's my best stratergy

Me, james and Sadass were talking about stragety that can be used in matches, and we all think it would be better to team people up in matches. For example (think of badlands):

Demo - Solly (damage)
Scout - Pyro (rush)
Medic - Heavy (wall)
Engie - Spy - Sniper (outpost)

or
(think yukon)

Scout - Solly - Demo (main force)
Engy - Sniper - Spy (Stationary support)
Pyro - Medic - Heavy (room cleaners)

Which one we use depends on what map is being played.
Remember that this is just the first thoughts.

People cannot always play just one class, unfortunatley it's unreliable in reality. People who have said they can play just what class, we need to know what other classes you can play just incase.

[for example, lets say this is the skill setout for engie and spy, in brackes is the level of skill they have in this class out of 10, found in the test matches:

- Engie: 1st Lunar (10)
2nd Krause (9)
3rd James (6)
- Spy: 1st Krause (10)
2nd Yogo (9.5)

Now say that Lunar is unable to make a match, while Krause and Yogo is. Although Krause is a better spy, compared to James he is a better Engie by a significant ammount. It is strategically better to place Krause as the Engie for this match than it would be to place James, as Yogo is almost as good as Krause and there would not be a match changing effect on it.]

We now have 14 dogs in the team, I don't think we should add any others to the pack unless they are exceptionably good or better than decent at just about every class.
Here are the classes and what dogs play them, but I don't want anything to be definate untill our first practise match. The order of the people in the classes don't mean anything.

Scout: Mailor, Aerial, Witted
Solly: Willed, Prime, Cunchy, Mailor, Tails
Pyro: Maroon, Aerial, Tails, Mailor, James
Demo: Prime, Cunchy, Yogo
Heavy: Maroon, James, Sadass
Engie: Sadass, James, Yogo, Tails, Lunar
Spy: Krause, Mailor, Yogo
Sniper: Prime, James, Banana, Maroon
Medic: LAD/Yoshi, Tails, James, Sadass

Depending on who plays best at what on the PUG (date is still to be decided) will define it.

People cannot always play just one class, unfortunatley it's unreliable in reality. People who have said they can play just what class, we need to know what other classes you can play just incase.

Hey Guys, Recruited by Maroon to be backup Heavy. Backup medic too i gess because i work well with SADASS as a team. Anyone can tell you that.

Good news dogs/team, I have just found out what was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over the team profile on eft2l. We now have everyone officially on the team, except for Custom Animation, who has not made an account and is never online.

Anyway, check out the official team page.
http://etf2l.org/teams/10727/

I've been invited here by maroon and at times i can be a really deadly demo and soldier

Hey. I play Soldier/Demoman. Maroon invited me.

As with classes, this is what we have so far:

Confirmed -
engineer: Lunar
Medic: The Last Action Doctor
Sniper: Maroon
Spy: Krause27

Unconfirmed -
Aerial: Pyro/Scout
Mailor: Medic/Pyro/Scout/Demo/Spy
Yogo: Demo/Engie/Spy (a REALLY good spy)
Tails: Demo/Engie/Medic
I cannot remember what Custom playes as by heart, but I think that he playes Soldier, Scout and Pyro.


Possible:
Scout: Aerial/Mailor
Sully: Custom
Pyro: Mailor/Aerial
Demo: -
Heavy: -
Engie: Lunar
Spy: Krause
Sniper: Maroon
Medic: LAD (Last Action Doctor)

Scout and Pyro is played by Aerial and Mailor (and 4 other classes! what a slut), so those two can figure out whose better at what... or they can fight over it. Either way it works.
Demo and Heavy are blank cause both Tails and Yogo play Demo, but neither play Heavy. Im not sure what to do here. Ill figure it out later after some sleep. (Yogo did say he is still new to the class and shouldn't be trusted with it, hopefully he has a decent amount of skill in Heavy...)

Hoorah, we have 9 people in the team now.
Even if everyone that got in after I did was because of me... im just glad that we have a full team. With 4 days to spare before the final sign-up dates.
That said, custom animation is the only person who hasn't made a eft2l account yet, so ill be hounding you for it. Aerial, YogoYeti and Mailor Soon (and Custom) is to be added to the group officially, so ill catch up with Krause with that.

Now, I think it would be a good idea to have some subs, as there is going to be a good chance that there will be atleast 1 person away from each match cause of personal life. I will keep looking for atleast 2 people to be subs, 3 if I can.

Yo! im a spy at my best, but i play demo and engi too.

Also, from the 20th from 29th I am in NZ snowboarding. As such, I will be unavailable at the time. Sorry.
(I can't believe I only just realised that this affects it now. Again, sorry)

Here are the major dates for the Highlander comp (cause I don't want to keep loadin the page).


* SIGNUPS OPEN: Now (Your team leader will have to sign your team up)
* SIGNUPS CLOSE: Thursday 26th of August
* FINAL DEVISIONS ANNOUNCED: Sunday 29th of August
* SCHEDULE DEADLINE FOR WEEK 1 MATCHES: Sunday the 5th of September
* WEEK 1 START: Sunday the 12th of September


Last thing:
Krause27, can you please give the new kids the walkthrough on making their accounts on the etf2l site so that you can join them to the group on the actual site. Thanks.

HyperTails here. Your medic/soldier/engie buddy. Maroon invited me. Lets do our best.

Okay guys, the sign-ups close on the 26th, 6 days from now.
As of right now, we only have 5 people and 1 possible on their way (as far as I know).

I suggest that by the 25th, if we still don't have enough people then we invite anybody who will accept. We don't have much time left, team.

hello! i am Aerial, invited and recruited by Maroon! always keen for some tf2, and i mainly play scout + pyro

WASSUP TEAM!

Sweet as, good to see the group moving along.